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Semisonic released three excellent studio albums from
the mid-1990s to early-2000s, continuing the legacy of compelling pop/rock acts
from Minneapolis. 1998’s Feeling Strangely Fine went platinum thanks to
alt-radio chart topper “Closing Time.” Then the trio went on an extended
hiatus.
photo by Steven Cohen
Lead singer/guitarist Dan Wilson also put out three
acclaimed solo albums. Then he became a sought-after songwriter/producer, with
credits on albums by Weezer, Tom Morello, Jason Mraz, Phantogram, The (Dixie) Chicks,
Taylor Swift, Adele (the last two collaborations netted Wilson a pair of
Grammys) and dozens more. Drummer Jacob Slichter authored the 2004 book So
You Wanna Be a Rock & Roll Star about his music business experience. Bassist
John Munson joined jazz trio The New Standards.
The Semisonic musicians stayed connected, played on each
other’s projects, and reunited for a handful of Minnesota gigs in 2012, 2017
and 2019. The following year, they put out the solid You’re Not Alone EP.
Last month, the band unveiled two new songs - the quiet, optimistic shuffle “Little
Bit of Sun” and mid-tempo rocker “Grow Your Own,” where Wilson namechecks Eighties
act ‘Til Tuesday in the lyrics. A full-length album is expected by year’s end.
We recently caught up with Wilson and Slichter separately
as they finished Semisonic’s first national tour in more than 20 years with
Barenaked Ladies and Del Amitri.
Rock Cellar: How
has it been for you personally with Semisonic in full swing again,
touring and recording?
Jacob Slichter: It’s
been both fun and rewarding. One way in which we were all pleasantly surprised
is to hear that we’ve improved, not regressed, as a band. We’re clearer on what
it is we do as a band and each of us is clearer about the particular role we
play. Dan, John, and Jake of 2001 would have been quite excited to hear the
album Dan, John, and Jake of 2023 are about to put out.
Dan Wilson:
I’ve really appreciated playing places like Red Rocks that we did [in the
Nineties] with matchbox 20 even more [as a seasoned musician].
Rock Cellar: What
was the band’s inspiration in creating the two newest Semisonic songs?
“Little Bit of Sun” is basically a folk song, while “Grow Your Own” is louder,
as Dan sings about his early days being in a band while at Harvard. What did
you think of Dan's lyrics when you first heard them?
Jacob Slichter: We’ve
always been eclectic, and our songs have always stretched across stylistic
boundaries that reflect the breadth of our listening habits. The eclecticism,
however, requires us to be thoughtful about how we curate an album as a whole.
In the case of this record, I think of ‘Little Bit of Sun’ and its expression
of hope as the closest thing to a statement of purpose. Hope, however, can’t
come cheaply; we need the wildness of things like [another new song] “The Rope”
[performed on the Barenaked Ladies tour] and some of the other tracks to allow
the deepest notes of ‘Little Bit of Sun’ to resonate.
Rock Cellar: It
was cool to see archival Semisonic photos and concerts in the video for “Grow
Your Own.” What did you think of the finished result?
Dan Wilson: I
sent the footage along to the director without really looking at it and not
thinking about how well it would go together.
Rock Cellar: How have Semisonic fans reacted to the new songs, either online or in concert?
Jacob Slichter: We’ve
been knocked out by how well they’ve been received as we’ve played them. The
fear is always that fans will receive new material with polite golf claps as
they wait patiently for the older, more familiar songs. That hasn’t been the
case on this tour. They’ve given loud approval at the concerts and written to
us online to express their excitement about the new songs.
Dan Wilson:
The new songs have been going over surprisingly well, which is unusual.
Rock Cellar: Thinking
about the You're Not Alone EP: When the three of you first got together
to write and record it, did you find a new appreciation for each other’s creative
talents, having not made music together for so long?
Dan Wilson:
We’d been playing together for a few years, but I suddenly found myself writing
to their musical strengths.
Jacob Slichter: That
appreciation had been gathering as I watched both of them write, record, and
perform outside of Semisonic. I wasn’t surprised to find Dan and John had
both grown musically, as I think they felt about me, but given the evolution in
our ears and playing, we found ourselves learning to play together slightly
differently than before. It didn’t take long, though.
Rock Cellar: Which
You're Not Alone tracks did you enjoy recording the most and why?
Jacob Slichter: ‘You’re
Not Alone’ and ‘Basement Tapes.’ The arrangement for ‘You’re Not Alone’ came
together easily and felt as if we’d played it before. ‘Basement Tapes’ was fun
- mainly because the lyrics kept us remembering our early days as a band, a
fitting point of reference given the fact that we were starting up again.
Rock Cellar:
The EP’s title track went top 20 at Adult Alternative radio. It had to feel
good to get that nod of approval again.
Dan Wilson: I
think people were just really surprised that there was a new Semisonic song out
there [and responded in kind].
Rock Cellar:
Dan, I know it initially took you awhile to get back into the mindset of
writing for Semisonic again. John had been asking you about it for years. The process
was jump started by a potential songwriting session with Liam Gallagher which
didn’t pan out, right?
Dan Wilson: Yeah.
We had a good hang and talked about writing. He was really funny. I wrote about
five songs a short time later. I followed up and [someone on his team said]
they forgot [about the writing session] and already finished the album.
Rock Cellar: What
can you tell me about the forthcoming full-length release?
Jacob Slichter:
We’re excited and proud of the album. It feels ambitious, both in scope and in
content. We’ve learned more about who we are as musicians and people, and you
hear this in the recordings. Now comes the hard part of waiting for the rest of
the world to hear it.
Rock Cellar:
Does it amaze you to think that 25 years have passed since “Closing Time” was a
big hit?
Dan Wilson: What
really amazes me is to still hear ‘Closing Time’ when I go out to the store…not
everyone gets to enjoy that kind of [ubiquitousness], even with a hit.”
Rock Cellar: Feeling
Strangely Fine made its vinyl debut for the 20th anniversary in
2018. What did you think of the results?
Dan Wilson:
I couldn’t believe how much better it sounded.
Rock Cellar: Dan,
since Rick Rubin executive produced your 2007 album Free Life and he’s often
considered to be a mensch to other musicians, did you take away anything in
particular from the experience?
Dan Wilson:
[Thinking out of the box], he once suggested we get some sugar packets for a
particular percussion sound. So, someone went to the nearest Starbucks and got
some.
Rock Cellar: Dan,
you co-wrote a song with Carole King on Semisonic’s 2001 album Chemistry.
More recently, you collaborated with Steve Perry for a tune on his 2018 effort Traces.
Do you almost have to pinch yourself being with such legends?
Dan Wilson:
I learned a lot from being with Carole King. With Steve Perry, once you hear
that voice… [you’re floored].
My interview originally appeared at rockcellarmagazine.com.
Imagine being in a hospital room when suddenly, you hear
live music by a local world-renown musician wafting through the corridors..jpg)
courtesy Reybee PR
That’s what happened last year after The Alarm front man Mike Peters was admitted to the North Wales Cancer Treatment Centre for a relapse of leukemia and later, pneumonia. Playing an acoustic guitar by his bedside and writing songs helped get the Welsh musician through the horrible ordeal.
“I knew I was in there for a long time, having to transition from one drug that stopped working - even though I was still dependent on it heavily,” explained Peters. “It was a very difficult time” having to “teach my body to accept this new drug. In between, I would play guitar, really just to keep my fingers going at first."
Some previous COVID-19 protocols remained in place at the facility, so there was still a big gap between occupied beds. Peters found the music welcomed by many people.
“A big guy across the way said, ‘Keep going. Play
louder. I’m enjoying it.’” Doctors, nurses, patients, and others became a
sounding board for new material.
“The auxiliary staff would come in to clean the bed
and return to sweep.” They would ask him to “play that again,” say it was “lovely”
and “you’ve got to make that into a song.”
An Alarm enthusiast from America visiting his father nearby
caught wind of Peters’ hospital serenades and spilled the beans online. The
musician suddenly had to be proactive.
“I wrote a letter [on social media] to fans, let them
know the status of what was happening and tried to reassure them that it wasn’t
as bad as it maybe sounded,” Peters recalled. “I signed off with ‘forwards.’ As
soon as I did, I thought, ‘That’s telling me something’…and it gave the songs
an impetus to move forward and have a very specific direction of travel.”
Once Peters was discharged, recording the enthralling
new studio album Forwards commenced.
But “the new drugs stripped my vocal cords” while I
was getting used to them and “I wasn’t sure if I was going to get my voice
back.”
A dozen demos were created in “a little caravan studio
I have at the top of the driveway that we brought back for lockdown,” Peters
said. “We learned to do file sharing to make our last album [2021’s Omega]
and released it within 50 days. That taught us a lot. It was a really powerful
record, and I carried a lot of that energy” into this one.
After adding drums to the new demos with longtime
producer George Williams, Peters told him frankly, “We might have to look at
this as a posthumous album. Although I’m here, the Mike Peters that made all
the other Alarm albums might not be. There might be a different person in the
room. We were hoping the voice would come back and it did - right at the end of
the sessions.
“We had some good vocals, but I had recorded them in such
a rush that the levels weren’t great,” continued Peters. Deciding to give it
“one more shot,” the singer went up to the microphone and “as soon as I let it
rip, my voice was there.”
He redid them all in a day (!) and spent 12 days total
recording. Williams mixed fast, but efficiently after Peters got a surprise
call from his record distributor saying a vinyl production slot had suddenly opened
up.
“I still can’t believe we’re talking about the record
so soon after I came out of hospital,” Peters said.
Forwards contains some of Peters’ most riveting, life-affirming lyrics to date. Standouts include fast and furious rocker “Next,” where he sings about “whatever’s trying to kill me”; the orchestral touches (think: Ennio Morricone) on “Love Disappearing” as Peters laments “the hatred stirred up” among society and the title track’s rallying cry of “trying to find something that looks like the new truth.”
Societal-based themes prevalent on Omega
carried over to other new album highlights like “New Standards” and “X.”
Peters felt he was “just hitting my stride” following
the previous release and some lyrics likely came from that same lockdown
period.
The musician sought to make Forwards “about
where I was coming from. But I still wanted it to reflect the real world we are
living in where the rule book has been rewritten for modern times. We have to
accept there are new standards to the way we live.
“Even in ‘X,’ he continued, “a lot of people need
guidance to get back into the real world. They’re still behind their doors on
screens…People need to get back into the open. I wanted to write lyrics that
captured and spoke to those kinds of people.”
Musically, the rousing “New Standards” recalls early Alarm
and The Jam.
“Today, I was playing The Jam’s ‘The Gift’ album,”
Peters admitted. “It’s always there. I find that although modern music is in
the rock idiom of guitars, it’s lost some of its relevancy. Record players were
at the forefront of our rooms when we were growing up. Now it’s the screen that
takes their place.”
Overall, the new songs cut closer to the bone than
ever before.
Peters agreed. “I can only really write from
experience,” he said, adding, “I’ve always thought the imagination is my
musical instrument and the guitar is really just the midwife to bring them into
the world.
“All the music I’ve made - right from the beginning
when we were singing about ‘marching on’ or ‘declaring yourself unsafe’ – was
because we had to uproot ourselves and try to make it in the wider world. The
rock ‘n’ roll world wasn’t going to come to us. We had to go to it. With ‘Forwards,’
it’s similar. I knew when I was creating the music in hospital, I wanted a
soundtrack that would get me out of there and back to real life. I wanted a
record that [appealed to] people in their real life” too.
To quote an early Alarm single, it sounds like
absolute reality.
Peters finds modern music making to be “quite
clinical” and computers can make the process last too long.
“We learned a lot doing the last two albums, going in
and doing things fast and immediately. Having a timeline and a date to finish
can improve and bring an energy to the record that can get lost.”
The Welshman sees bands like The Killers, Foo Fighters
and Muse still making the music festival rounds and wonders when the next new
exciting rock band will seize the moment.
“Nothing’s come along since the Arctic Monkeys,
really, to challenge that,” said Peters. “A lot of bands are still big and sell
a lot of tickets, but they don’t make records very often. I’m hoping some young
guitar band can come and fill the void and knock some of these pop stars out of
the way.”
Similarly, The Alarm came across like a breath of
fresh air when it started in 1981. Peters, guitarist Dave Sharp, bassist Eddie
MacDonald and drummer Nigel Twist previously played together in a few other short-lived
groups.
Two years later, they benefitted from exposure on U2’s
War tour, famously represented by a stop at Red Rocks Amphitheatre in Colorado.
“That was brilliant,” Peters recalled. “We learned a
lot from seeing how they switched from being a band playing to 8,000 people and
bringing the house down and playing to 500 people the next night and putting on
the same show. Different magnitudes, but they made that same connection. I
thought that was incredible - seeing a band up close who cared so much and
wanted to make each show as memorable as they possibly could for their fans and
not have them go home citing amnesia because they forgot certain parts of the
gig. Like what fans of Taylor Swift have been doing” lately.
By the late ‘80s, The Alarm was known in America for such
rock radio hits as “Rain in the Summertime,” “Sold Me Down the River” and
“Devolution Workin’ Man Blues.” In the U.K., The Alarm notched anthemic top 30
singles like “Spirit of ’76,” “Where Were You Hiding (When the Storm Broke)” and
“Sixty-Eight Guns.”
The completed version of the latter surprised band
members.
“We took a verse out at the producer’s request,” explained
Peters. “When we heard the single, trumpets had been put on after we left the
studio. It took some getting used to. We realized it was still a good record,
but it wasn’t the kind of record we wanted to make in our imagination.
“Then, when we came back to Britain and it was a hit,
we started playing it and no one knew what it was because we were playing our
version. We had to begrudgingly learn the [demonstrates the sound] and play the
big fanfare intro. We appreciate it now. When it comes on the radio now, it
still sounds like a great record. Somewhere along the line, one of us said to
the producer, ‘We want it to sound like ‘Born to Run.’’’ That’s what it sounds
like. Careful what you wish for!”
By the decade’s end, the band released five studio
albums before Peters left on a solo career.
He reclaimed the Alarm name in the early 2000s
alongside lead guitarist/bassist James Stevenson (the original members took
part in VH1’s “Bands Reunited” and remain on good terms). Peters returned to
the U.K. singles chart with “45 RPM” under the guise of teen band The Poppy
Fields in ’04. The saga was later made into 2013 feature film “Vinyl” starring
Phil Daniels and Keith Allen.
Since then, Peters and the current Alarm lineup -
rounded out by Steve “Smiley” Barnard on drums and Peters’ wife Jules on
keyboards - has put out more than a dozen additional albums.
First diagnosed with leukemia in 2006, Peters
co-founded Love Hope Strength, a rock ‘n’ roll cancer foundation (named after
The Alarm hit “Strength”) in ’07. It raises awareness via worldwide mountain
hikes often culminating with all-star concerts and a Get on the List campaign
for bone marrow donors.
With Mike Peters’ cancer in remission, he did a short U.K. spring solo tour. The Peters also recently opened The Chapel, a BNB where cancer patients can stay free as an alternative to the sterile hospital, in Wales. This past June, The Alarm held court at The Gramercy Theatre in New York City for the four-day U.S. edition of annual fan celebration The Gathering. A solo tour is tentatively planned for fall.
A version of this interview originally appeared at rockcellarmagazine.com.